[WRTC2006] WRTC2010 TL Selection Critiera - Addl. Questions

[Igor Booklan SRR]

Hi Tom!

I understand your point but have a look from a different point of view
.. from your countrymen point of view.

I also feel very comfortable operation from Cyprus "beating" my
Russian friends and I don't have 2nd station. But when I looked from
their point I was giving them no chance at all, so I changed my mind
and I respect them very much.

Now I will have to find a solution to compete from Russia as well!

73s, Harry RA3AUU

GT> Harry wrote

GT> I don't see any problems with someone winning 4 contests from REMOTE
GT> AREA. You would still have to be good enough to win another 4 from
GT> your HOME AREA.
GT> ______

GT> However, that requires two stations.  This rule is propagated by
GT> the allocation of stations to geographies and the fairness of
GT> scoring points outside your area.  However, if not all the
GT> stations were assigned by area this problem would go away.  If
GT> half the contestants were defined by points scored in ther home
GT> area, some of the geographical diversity could be preserved.  If
GT> the rest of the contestants we're based on total points  earned
GT> anywhere in world normalized to where they operated, this whole
GT> allocation of US vs EU would go away and the contesters that won
GT> their area the most often would qualify.                  


GT> 73 Tom W2SC/VP9

GT> -----Original Message-----
GT> From: Igor Booklan SRR <ra3auu at srr.ru>
GT> To: Alexander Avramov <wrtc2006 at wrtc2006.com>
GT> Sent: Sat Jul 28 09:25:40 2007
GT> Subject: Re: [WRTC2006] WRTC2010 TL Selection Critiera - Addl. Questions

GT> Rich and Alex,

GT> I don't see any problems with someone winning 4 contests from REMOTE
GT> AREA. You would still have to be good enough to win another 4 from
GT> your HOME AREA.

GT> 73s, Harry RA3AUU

AA>> Well, if it's so easy to win some remote area even 4 times are too many.
AA>> This definitely is a problem that the organizers have to address somehow.

AA>> 73, Alex LZ4AX

AA>> Richard DiDonna NN3W wrote:
>>> I'm fully aware that my score is compared to another station in my same 
>>> geographic area.  But theoretically, I could run off to the South Pacific, 
>>> make 1.5 million points and win the geographic area 8 times, and I could 
>>> then apply that score to my easy coast entry.
>>>
>>> 73 Rich NN3W
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Alexander Avramov" <lz4ax at psu.edu>
>>> To: <wrtc2006 at wrtc2006.com>
>>> Sent: Friday, July 27, 2007 10:50 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [WRTC2006] WRTC2010 TL Selection Critiera - Addl. Questions
>>>
>>>
>>>   
>>>> Rich,
>>>>
>>>> if you go back to the rules and re-read them it would stop sound so
>>>> reasonable. You are competing not against John's scores from P40W but
>>>> against the points he earned after his score was normalized to the best
>>>> score from that area - SA or Caribbean. Your score gets normalized to
>>>> K5ZD's score :) And then you compare the points. As far as I see it,
>>>> this procedure doesn't give John any advantage over you. Well, unless
>>>> you think that down there the competition isn't that tough as it is here 
>>>> :)
>>>>
>>>> 73, Alex LZ4AX
>>>>
>>>> Richard DiDonna NN3W wrote:
>>>>     
>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>> From: John Crovelli
>>>>>> To: ra3auu at srr.ru ; wrtc2006 at wrtc2006.com
>>>>>> Sent: Friday, July 27, 2007 8:37 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [WRTC2006] WRTC2010 TL Selection Critiera - Addl. Questions
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Harry,
>>>>>> Thank you for your quick response to my quesiton.  I am naturally
>>>>>> disappointed to see a  rule that limits consideration to only 4 DX 
>>>>>> contest
>>>>>> scores since nearly >100% of my own DX contest entries occur from a DX
>>>>>> location and not my home country, so in effect I and others in a 
>>>>>> similiar
>>>>>> situation are penalized for our off ?>shore efforts.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         
>>>>> Honestly, it sounds reasonable to me.  Why should I, in the eastern USA, 
>>>>> be
>>>>> competing against scores posted by somebody from a different part of the
>>>>> world?  Theoretically, I could run off to some random place in the 
>>>>> Pacific
>>>>> for 8 contests, run up a decent score, and then come back and claim them 
>>>>> as
>>>>> top scores for the east coast.  Does that seem to be a reasonable action 
>>>>> for
>>>>> those hams who choose to stay at home in their relevant geographic area 
>>>>> and
>>>>> compete at home?